Comments on: Why IPTV is bad for the customer /2009/02/04/why-iptv-is-bad-for-the-customer Cars, Computers, and trying new things Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:15:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Lopezzi /2009/02/04/why-iptv-is-bad-for-the-customer/comment-page-1#comment-11566 Lopezzi Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:38:55 +0000 /?p=684#comment-11566 My whole concern with IPTV is, like you said, bandwidth. I still can't see it happeneing any time soon. If I were to get IPTV I would want to be able to watch a full 1080i/p with 7.1 audio with NO blips, artifacts, or any kind of signal degredation. And right now, I don't think our bandwidth is up to the task. This is also why I think everyone who says blu-ray will fail because of online streaming is wrong. Out available speeds here in America are just not up to it as of yet. Oh and that would be on just 1 TV too. What if I wanted to watch that same setup on multiple TV's? I don't see it happening. My whole concern with IPTV is, like you said, bandwidth. I still can’t see it happeneing any time soon. If I were to get IPTV I would want to be able to watch a full 1080i/p with 7.1 audio with NO blips, artifacts, or any kind of signal degredation. And right now, I don’t think our bandwidth is up to the task. This is also why I think everyone who says blu-ray will fail because of online streaming is wrong. Out available speeds here in America are just not up to it as of yet. Oh and that would be on just 1 TV too. What if I wanted to watch that same setup on multiple TV’s? I don’t see it happening.

]]> By: Rothgar /2009/02/04/why-iptv-is-bad-for-the-customer/comment-page-1#comment-11547 Rothgar Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:52:47 +0000 /?p=684#comment-11547 Thanks for the comment. You make a good point about VoIP. I remember when everyone said the quality would be horrible and it would never work. I think the main thing that drove VoIP though was the price. You could call anyone in the world for a flat rate, and that flat rate was still $20-30 cheaper than most basic local calling plans. While FiOS internet service is relatively cheap where I am (~$30) the TV service is still >$40 which doesn't make it stand out at all compared to other service providers in my area (southern California) My experience when my cable went out was more to show that the satellite/cable method of getting your home entertainment is probably the better way to go. But that isn't IPTV specific, that is more just saying you shouldn't put all your entertainment needs in the hands of one provider. I didn't write this article cause I hate IPTV. I wrote it because I wanted people to think about IPTV and what you are actually getting when you sign up for it. I actually already have a draft for a future post on things IPTV providers can do to rock the rest of the home entertainment providers out of business. Sorta how Vonage is killing land line phones from Time Warner and AT&T with just a lower price. Thanks for the comment. You make a good point about VoIP. I remember when everyone said the quality would be horrible and it would never work. I think the main thing that drove VoIP though was the price. You could call anyone in the world for a flat rate, and that flat rate was still $20-30 cheaper than most basic local calling plans. While FiOS internet service is relatively cheap where I am (~$30) the TV service is still >$40 which doesn’t make it stand out at all compared to other service providers in my area (southern California)
My experience when my cable went out was more to show that the satellite/cable method of getting your home entertainment is probably the better way to go. But that isn’t IPTV specific, that is more just saying you shouldn’t put all your entertainment needs in the hands of one provider.
I didn’t write this article cause I hate IPTV. I wrote it because I wanted people to think about IPTV and what you are actually getting when you sign up for it.
I actually already have a draft for a future post on things IPTV providers can do to rock the rest of the home entertainment providers out of business. Sorta how Vonage is killing land line phones from Time Warner and AT&T with just a lower price.

]]> By: Krunk /2009/02/04/why-iptv-is-bad-for-the-customer/comment-page-1#comment-11546 Krunk Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:32:17 +0000 /?p=684#comment-11546 You can make most of the arguments above against VoIP, yet VoIP is a much more convenient and more economical than landline phones. I'm not saying your arguments don't have merit, but most of them can be solved. Most VoIP today uses SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) standard. One can see when IPTV gets enough traction in the future, there will be demand for a a standard and it will be created. Bandwidth is also a temporary issue. Of course in rural areas, it's going to be a much longer issue, but in most major cities, bandwidth is expected to increase rapidly. Just a few years ago, we were stuck in the 1-2Mbps. Nowadays, most major cities are capable of supporting up to 15-20Mbps. I don't any much experience with FiOS nor their router box (besides knowing they provide you with one), but it sounds more like an issue with their equipment and policy, more than an argument against IPTV. Certainly they don't need to bundle a router or give you large equipment. You're single point of outage does raise a good point. I mean I've always considered getting a slower/cheaper backup plan in case my regular cable internet service went down, but in regards to your remark, it's not really something against IPTV. If your cable TV signal went down, it's also a single point of failure. Also, I believe many are stuck in the way TV should work, meaning TV shows are scheduled at particular times and if you miss it or forget to record it, too bad. With the introduction of Hulu and other similar services, it has shown that TV CAN be delivered in a more friendly way. Watch TV on my schedule, not the broadcasters. Then there's competition, no longer will you have to be stuck with a cable monopoly in your area. How many cities do you know that actually have more than 1 way to get non-OTA (over the air) TV. Just my 2 cents. You can make most of the arguments above against VoIP, yet VoIP is a much more convenient and more economical than landline phones.

I’m not saying your arguments don’t have merit, but most of them can be solved. Most VoIP today uses SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) standard. One can see when IPTV gets enough traction in the future, there will be demand for a a standard and it will be created.

Bandwidth is also a temporary issue. Of course in rural areas, it’s going to be a much longer issue, but in most major cities, bandwidth is expected to increase rapidly. Just a few years ago, we were stuck in the 1-2Mbps. Nowadays, most major cities are capable of supporting up to 15-20Mbps.

I don’t any much experience with FiOS nor their router box (besides knowing they provide you with one), but it sounds more like an issue with their equipment and policy, more than an argument against IPTV. Certainly they don’t need to bundle a router or give you large equipment.

You’re single point of outage does raise a good point. I mean I’ve always considered getting a slower/cheaper backup plan in case my regular cable internet service went down, but in regards to your remark, it’s not really something against IPTV. If your cable TV signal went down, it’s also a single point of failure. Also, I believe many are stuck in the way TV should work, meaning TV shows are scheduled at particular times and if you miss it or forget to record it, too bad. With the introduction of Hulu and other similar services, it has shown that TV CAN be delivered in a more friendly way. Watch TV on my schedule, not the broadcasters.

Then there’s competition, no longer will you have to be stuck with a cable monopoly in your area. How many cities do you know that actually have more than 1 way to get non-OTA (over the air) TV.

Just my 2 cents.

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